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How would a JW handle this? 587 proved correct date for fall of Jerusalem
by confusedjw in
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so i put it out to you who believe the wtbts is the agent used by god's channel on earth based on the belief that in 1919 (3 1/2 years after the gentile times ended in 1914, per pastor russell) they were appointed the fds.. what if it was proved that not 607, but 587 was the date jerusalem was destroyed?

would that affect your faith?

would it matter that the teaching of 1919 turned out to be false?
Deputy Dog

It has been proved! How would a JW handle this? Look at scholar! I'm sure he will respond soon.
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Is pantheism a form of omnipresence?
by LittleToe in
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Deputy Dog

LT
If this is the case, why do we use symbology such as "God is in heaven", as if this is distinct from the material creation? Is this "heaven" a created thing? Is it another universe? Is it transcendant to the material?
This space time thing is a drag. I'll let you know when I get there.
D Dog
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Sounds a little presumptious...
...both towards me and towards Pantheists.
Sorry. With all that free will, I thought maybe you were thinking of converting
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Is pantheism a form of omnipresence?
by LittleToe in
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We have differing ideals of worship I'm sure
D Dog
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Is pantheism a form of omnipresence?
by LittleToe in
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Deputy Dog

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The concept of creation doesn't belong in pantheism.
Agreed, tell that to LT. It gives no credit to a Creator either.
D Dog
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Is pantheism a form of omnipresence?
by LittleToe in
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Deputy Dog

Methinks ye may be missing the point of the thread

Maybe.
I believe all of creation brings glory to God and reveals God. But, I don't think God is limited to the creation of this universe. I don't think that pantheism is a form of omnipresence. Pantheism accounts only for the universe.
D Dog
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Is pantheism a form of omnipresence?
by LittleToe in
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Deputy Dog

Is it pantheon-ism or pan-theism?

I don't think there is much of a difference http://www.pantheism.net/paul/
"Scientific or natural pantheism is a modern form of pantheism that deeply reveres the universe and nature and joyfully accepts and embraces life, the body and earth, but does not believe in any supernatural deities, entities or powers."
"When scientific pantheists say WE REVERE THE UNIVERSE we are not talking about a supernatural being."
I don't care how you slice it. They worship and serve the creature more than the Creator
D Dog
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Is pantheism a form of omnipresence?
by LittleToe in
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Are christians as part of Christ's metaphysical body part of God? A limited pantheism of sorts?
I would say not, just "joint-heirs with Christ"!
D Dog
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Is pantheism a form of omnipresence?
by LittleToe in
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My understanding of Pantheism is that it has many gods, like the god of the sun or sun god, eagle god, fish god, tree god, wolf god ect. I dont know of a brand of pantheism that believes in the One true God. In fact they worship mother earth.
D Dog
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Is pantheism a form of omnipresence?
by LittleToe in
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LT
I think Paul would love to lead anyone away from worshipping the creation rather than the One (Christ) having created.
D Dog
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Is pantheism a form of omnipresence?
by LittleToe in
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LT
So, are you saying Paul is intolerant?